These were purchased more as a stop-gap before I moved onto the Hankook RS3’s. Very impressed with these tires overall. The talk is that these tires required a lot of heat to be happy, which I found to be true. I kind of liked that about these tires, as opposed to the ZII’s. I can see how in the colder months of the year this tire wouldn’t be preferred without a co-driver. Hot level grip was among the best I’ve had, and I even ran them flipped what they were supposed to be.